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We are joined by one of Belgium’s 40 under 40, Carlien Cavens.

This ex-McKinsey'er switched careers to find more meaning, and now organises retreats for top-leaders.

During this honest conversation, you'll learn about her insights during an 'early midlife crisis', what happens when people decide to let go of their phone and of the state of being 'always busy', and the most remarkable changes that people gone through after her retreats.

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